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They're going to be excommunicated roughly 3.5 seconds afterwards, mind you, but still, interesting.

Defying church, 12 Catholic women to be ordained here

"On July 31, a dozen well-educated, experienced Roman Catholic women will pass into uncharted spiritual waters on a boat cruising Pittsburgh's rivers.

On that afternoon, three women in vestments will lay their hands on the heads of the 12 women and anoint their hands with oil during an ordination ceremony that will be the first of its kind in the United States.

Among the participants is Joan Clark Houk, 65, of McCandless, who with seven other women are answering a call to be priests; the other four are candidates to be deacons.

It will be the fourth such ceremony in the world since 2002, all unrecognized by the Vatican. The women are part of a growing international movement to push for women's ordination."

Date: 2006-06-20 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tepintzin.livejournal.com
http://www.womanpriest.org and I both take a darker-than-dim view of such "ordinations". Much though I favour womens' ordinations, I prefer to work for changes in the hierarchical church that will make such changes a natural evolution rather than a temper tantrum as it is here.

I particularly like how they're being ordained by nobody in particular. I guess they missed the "apostolic succession" part of legal ordination.

I don't mind when ditzes like this get excommunicated. One of them is married to an Episcopalian. Why doesn't she get legitimately ordained there?

Date: 2006-06-20 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patgund.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was kinda curious as to why, if she's married to an Episcopalian priest, why she didn't seek ordination there.

Personally, two of the reasons I left Catholism was because I felt women should have the right to be ordained, and because I felt the celebcy requirement was outdated at best. While I thought the article was interesting, it also seemed like the exact wrong way to go about it.

Date: 2006-06-20 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tepintzin.livejournal.com
I went to womenpriests.org to see if they had a comment (they did on the one in Germany) but not only did I not see a comment on this, I found that they've changed the name of the site to womenministries.org or something like that (clicking the link I posted automatically re-directs). I think this is to distance themselves from the Roman Catholic Womenpriests group. It's kind of funny to call a web site that speaks up for the ordination of Catholic women "conservative" but it is.

Date: 2006-06-20 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loli-cat.livejournal.com
Episcopalians Address Gay Bishop Impasse

Episcopal delegates are considering measures aimed at appeasing Anglicans who are irate about the 2003 consecration of V. Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay Episcopal bishop.

http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20060620/D8IC1FGG2.html

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