Oooooookay........

[patgund]

Granted, not my faith. Still seems like it's more looking like justification for "stereotypical male behaviour" than anything else.

Manliness is next to godliness

"In fact, men taking charge is a big theme of the GodMen revival. At what he hopes will be the first of many such conferences, in a warehouse-turned-nightclub in downtown Nashville, Stine asks the men: "Are you ready to grab your sword and say, 'OK, family, I'm going to lead you?' " He also distributes a list of a real man's rules for his woman. No. 1: "Learn to work the toilet seat. You're a big girl. If it's up, put it down."

Stine's wife, Desiree, says she supports manly leadership; it seems to her the natural and God-ordained order of things. As she puts it: "When the rubber hits the bat, I want to know my husband will protect me."

But some men at the conference run into trouble when they debut their new attitudes at home. Eric Miller, a construction worker, admits his wife is none too pleased when he takes off, alone, on a weekend camping trip a few weeks after the GodMen conference this fall.

"She was a little bit leery of it, as we have an infant," he reports. "She said, 'I need your help around here.' "

Miller, 26, refuses to yield: "I am supposed to be the leader of the family."

He's pretty sure his wife will come around once she recognizes he's modeling his life after Jesus', like a good Christian should. It'll just take a little explaining, because the Jesus he has in mind is the guy on the wanted poster: "confrontational and sarcastic when he needed to be," Miller says, and determined to use "whatever means was necessary to achieve his goal."

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Now that I would love to see

[mama-hogswatch.livejournal.com]

You know, in all seriousness, I love to meet the man whose judgement was so good and I had such faith in it that I would be willing to give him a leadership position in my private life.

He would be a very interesting person indeed.

Re: Now that I would love to see

[mysryael.livejournal.com]

Amen or maybe A - Man?

[nolly.livejournal.com]

Note to Eric Miller: Jesus did do what was necessary to achieve his goal. But his goal was to serve others, not himself. Jesus would have helped with the baby, not gone camping with his buddies.

[henglaar.livejournal.com]

It DOES raise the question of how he's supposed to "lead" his family when he's not actually there, doesn't it?

[angelique69.livejournal.com]

Or taken the wife and kid with him to the dismay of the other folks. *WEG* Blessed Be, Angelique

[tepintzin.livejournal.com]

Sounds downright Brokeback Mountain to me, ese.

[cormac.livejournal.com]

To Eric Miller I have this to say:

Miller, 26, refuses to yield: "I am supposed to be the leader of the family."

Can't lead if no one follows you, Miller. I think you're confusing "leader" with "boss." Given the current national leadership, I'm not surprised such a confusion will occur. Let me clarify the two terms; while a boss can do whatever he wants and not really get in trouble, a true leader takes into consideration the feelings and input of those s/he leads. Being a boss is simple. Being a leader is extremely difficult.

He's pretty sure his wife will come around once she recognizes he's modeling his life after Jesus', like a good Christian should. It'll just take a little explaining, because the Jesus he has in mind is the guy on the wanted poster: "confrontational and sarcastic when he needed to be," Miller says, and determined to use "whatever means was necessary to achieve his goal."

Patterning your life after Jesus' life? So you were studying with the learned scholars when you were 6, started your own sept of Judaism by 30, encouraged people to leave their own lives and work in service to you, and pissed off the government bad enough for them to execute you by 33? Just what part of Jesus' life includes getting married and having kids in the first place? Miller, you need to leave your family completely, quit your job as a construction worker, and wander the land preaching the gospel to everyone who will listen if you want to model your life after Jesus' career.

[henglaar.livejournal.com]

"Prairie Muffins, and the Macho Idiots Who Own Them" on the next Dr. Phil . . .