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Okay......

Way back in Jan., a person going by the name of [livejournal.com profile] darkhorseman makes a post on [livejournal.com profile] polyamory relating to some jealousy issues with his wife and "girlfriend". (Basically the "Poly for me but not for thee" attitude.)

Some civil comments and suggestions are made, until it's found out the "girlfriend" is, in fact, a pony.

The four-legged, eats oats variety.

At which point, the community goes "Oh HELL no!!" and the entertainment begins. [livejournal.com profile] darkhorseman storms off in a huff and deletes his original message. Posts on [livejournal.com profile] dot_poly_snark climb higher. THEN his human wife, [livejournal.com profile] callmesilver joins in, lambasting [livejournal.com profile] polyamory for being "judgemental". Eventually she storms off in a huff as well. Posts on [livejournal.com profile] dot_poly_snark reach low earth orbit.

http://www.journalfen.net/community/otf_wank/519621.html

Well, today in [livejournal.com profile] metaquotes, a link to this post in JournalFen is made.

He "married" the pony.

There are times I hate teh Intertubes....

Re: My intellectual contribution:

Date: 2007-03-15 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] henglaar.livejournal.com
I confess I've seen prettier horses. And I still didn't want to date them.

My apologies if this is your horse.

Re: My intellectual contribution:

Date: 2007-03-15 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peaseblossom03.livejournal.com
Not my horse. We don't even have room for a dog.

I intentionally sought out the most unflattering horse picture I could find.

Re: My intellectual contribution:

Date: 2007-03-16 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] henglaar.livejournal.com
[chuckle] Never hurts to be sure. Telling a horse owner that their horse is ugly is as dangerous as saying the same about a kid to a doting parent.

Date: 2007-03-15 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matrygg.livejournal.com
Bringing something non-human into it is one way to avoid the instability that adding more and more people into a relationship can foster. Not a healthy or good way, but it is a way....

Actually, as a side note (and entirely as an intellectual exercise -- I'm monogamous, date within my species, and taken) I've read from time to time that dolphins will attempt to initiate mating with swimmers if there's enough of a degree of trust/companionship there. If a swimmer were to reciprocate, would it then be consentual? Does the lack of recognized sapience automatically mean consent isn't possible when a species is right on the cusp?

And yes, I know it's a really weird question. I just don't often have a reason to think about polyamory (my friends relationships are their business unless they decide otherwise), much less polyamory with a horse, and I don't want to waste the opportunity.

Date: 2007-03-15 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] henglaar.livejournal.com
Well, getting all literal-minded and legalistic, I suspect that lack of legally recognized sapience would probably mean that consent could not be legally given. They have to recognize you as a sentient being before you get to vote, is the impression I get.

It makes some sense: the species involved is protected against . . . intrusions until they're recognized and can effectively speak for themselves. So, just as a human minor cannot legally give consent, a species not recognized as sapient cannot, either. (Conversely, and luckily for some orangutans, they cannot be charged with rape, either.)

(I've heard of some Doms/Dommes referring to their collection of submissives as their "stable", but I personally think this person has gone a little bit too far.)

Date: 2007-03-15 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragon-feather.livejournal.com
Now I am a fairly open minded person, I believe. Poly, bondage, whips, hot wax, etc, etc, etc. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and have had it pierced. But this just brings one word to mind:

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW!

Date: 2007-03-16 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweet-kitty-gal.livejournal.com
You know I used to get stuff in my old e-mail advertising woman and men having relationships with horses and donkeys as normal and that it should be accepted by all community's.. thought it was a bit weird then... but even more now that i can't find my brain bleach and i keep thinking about it.

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